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2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Streaker on Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:57 pm

This years draft poses a dilemma for the club with us not only having to use our 1st round pick, but also having a strong contingent of Top West Australian draft talent to choose from. The old adage of when it rains it pours leads us to the fact that this year team requirements and available talent align. The dilemma comes in the form of the West Australian talent all being highly rated and us having only a singular high pick to take what we require.

So who are these talents I speak of I hear you asking and how is it such a great dilemma?

Firstly it will all come down to requirements.

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Do we need Midfielders or a Key Forward? What about a Key Defender?

Since the beginning of time West Coast have always had the ability to recruit Key Defenders and Half Back Flankers at the lower end of the draft. We've always seemed to manage to find a good hard Ruck at a basement level price with the great rucks at both ends of the draft. We've even managed to give away some of Rucks who've gone on to be bargains for other clubs.

It seems that the Midfield and Key Forward area have been somewhat of a hit and miss affair with us generally having to take midfielders at the higher end of the spectrum to find the gold. Unlike the mob up the road we haven't gone down the gold digger road to get players to return home and so far those that we have lured home have been reasonably effective.

This year we have been hit relatively hard by injury in the midfield department and the signs are there that our midfield depth is severely lacking. We've tried drafting mids in the 2nd round of the draft with limited success. 2015 saw us take Luke Partington {28}, 2016 Daniel Venables {13}, 2017 Hamish Brayshaw {68}, 2018 Xavier O'Neill {28}, 2019 we sold our soul to the devil for Tim Kelly and in 2020 we took Luke Edwards at pick 52. Sheed, Gaff and Shuey have been great pick ups as has been the trading in of Yeo and Redden but it seems that having just a small nucleus of talent with little or no depth has us struggling to compete with those that have coveted multi-positional talent who roll through the midfield. It also appears that talent at other clubs seem to develop a lot quicker than those at West Coast.

Is it because we play a core of players that don't rotate through the lower ranks or positions on the field? Is it because the WAFL system has severely restricted the way in which we develop a team in their system? Are we too reliant on the senior players to get us over the line or do we not trust our system is developing players to their potential?

But I digress....

This year we have (at present) pick 12 in the draft. Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy are two Father?Sons who will go high in the draft meaning we should have one of the top 10 Midfielders in the draft at our 1st round choice and by god there are some good choices available this year. 3 Western Australians that stand out should be around at our pick. Neil Erasmus, Matthew Johnson and Joshua Browne. You then have Kade Dittmar, Max Chipper and Corey Warner all available later in the draft, thats not to say we should be just looking at midfielders. Then you have the West Australian Key Forwards in Jacob Van Rooyen, Jack Williams and Jye Amiss.

Now without looking at Easern States talent or Key Defenders and Small Forwards that's a pretty good lineup right there. Hopefully we can either trade a player or picks to get another pick higher up to take just more than one as well as finding that diamond in the drafts later picks.

So with current picks 12, 31, 34 and 50 the issue is which one do you desire?
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Fair Bump Play On on Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:19 pm

Lets get the best half back flanker. Someone who has been under the radar but probably could be the best midfielder ever if we gave them the chance. :)
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Fair Bump Play On on Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:59 pm

22 players who want to play AFL; really really badly.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Pinion King on Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:15 pm

It is looking like we are getting a top 10 pick. Nice!

Do we do what we did in 2017, trade our futures load up on good 2nd and 3rd rounder picks and go draft crazy? Or use next years first-rounder to get another one this year? Or even load up on picks and then trade some to get another first?

Or do we look more at next years draft? Teams that have f/s and academy kids are going to want picks.

I would look at midfield as a priority, and then try and find some diamonds in the rough for other positions later in the draft.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby qrmewati on Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:59 am

I think we should do the following

Round 1 Pick 10: Draft best midfielder available. Ben Hobbs/Neil Erasmus/Josh Rechelle/Arlo Draper
Round 2 Pick 29: Draft midfielder/forward who is fast.
Round 2 Pick 36: Draft a Key Forward or Key Defender and let him develop in WAFL. Hopefully one of the WA forwards will be available Jack Williams etc..
Round 3 Pick 50: Draft our Academy player Ethan Regan

Hopefully we can get Clarke from Geelong he is fast.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby worsfold's secret weapon on Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:01 am

Don't know much about the other WA boys in the darft but for personal reasons I would love to see our old neighbour Josh Browne taken by the Eagles.
A great kid who played in champion teams at Applecross Hawks and studying Physiotherapy at Uni. Would be an awesome get for us.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Clarke Markx Goalz on Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:26 am

I was looking at the rising star nominees and a most of the ones that they expect to win ~the top ten so to speak all come from these finalists. It seems that you need to have some young stars coming through to do well. To spark the team. In 2018, there was a lot debutantes, Ryan, Allen etc. It's good a bunch them got a start this year. I am liking Edwards and Foley. But another exciting game breaker, if that is not too much to ask
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby qrmewati on Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:26 am

I like Josh Browne but pick 10 might be too high for him (according to draft gurus) and he probably won't be available at pick 29 (according to me). Would be a great pick though, his stats are great, hope he is fast as well and interested to see how he performs in the carnival and at the combine.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Mykidsdad on Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:43 pm

Pick 10 has to be the best midfielder available, simple as that, no utilities, no key positions or ruckmen.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Favonius Aquila on Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm

Joshua Edwards (Peel Colts) is worth a look as a late pick for a long term ruck prospect - 18, 199cm (and still growing, no doubt), 96 kg.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Fair Bump Play On on Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:31 pm

We will need to draft someone who we can plan to play full forward in coming years now. JK can't be good for more than one can he? All our options are a bit on the small side unless NN or Williams can convert. Then we'll need a ruck.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Clarke Markx Goalz on Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:07 pm

Mykidsdad wrote:Pick 10 has to be the best midfielder available, simple as that, no utilities, no key positions or ruckmen.

No player that has slid down the rankings because no one else rated them. WCE have been good at picking mids before. Other than Cripps, Kelly, Black and Fyfe. Surely they still have a few people on the books checking out all the leagues and finding some gold at 29.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Clarke Markx Goalz on Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:11 pm

Favonius Aquila wrote:Joshua Edwards (Peel Colts) is worth a look as a late pick for a long term ruck prospect - 18, 199cm (and still growing, no doubt), 96 kg.

Can Always use another Edwards on the list. We need some more "J"s as well after losing two Jarrods and a Johnson. Jack Leonie would help increase our Jacks, can never have too many Jacks on a footy team.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Favonius Aquila on Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:34 pm

Fair Bump Play On wrote:We will need to draft someone who we can plan to play full forward in coming years now. JK can't be good for more than one can he? All our options are a bit on the small side unless NN or Williams can convert. Then we'll need a ruck.


I thought this was why the Eagles drafted Brander, who they've just delisted after putting nothing into his development in this area - just playing him out of position on a wing. I hope Brander gets another chance elsewhere.
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Re: 2021 Draft Dilemma

Postby Clarke Markx Goalz on Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:22 pm

Richard Farmer looks alright. There's no way he'll slip to one of our late picks next year is there?
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