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by Streaker on Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:38 pm
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl-d ... b88882459zCameron kicked five goals to inspire WA to a 32-point win over Vic Country – their first in three matches at this year’s under-18 championships – at GMHBA Stadium.
The 18-year-old scorched the turf in chilly conditions and looked a spitting image of his brother, Brisbane speedster Charlie Cameron, when he twice sprinted forward and produced classy finishes under pressure at full-tilt during the second quarter.
“Consistency is what he needs now. That doesn’t mean he has to kick five in the next game, but he has to play his role and play consistent football.” Cameron is part of West Coast’s Next Generation Academy, giving them first crack at him at the draft.
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by Perrythegreat on Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:18 pm
looks an exciting prospect
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by Streaker on Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:47 pm
Perrythegreat wrote:looks an exciting prospect
Hopefully no one bids until our 3rd pick. Others from WA I'd like are Dillon O'Rielly, a 194cm Forward and Louis Miller a 187cm HBF who reads the ball extremely well.
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by farmer joe on Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:30 pm
Streaker wrote:Others from WA I'd like are Dillon O'Rielly, a 194cm Forward
I have a heap of admiration for his old man due to two reasons: * Leaving the dockers after playing 98 games and missing father/son by two games when the Dockers would have loved Dylan coming through as a forward. * Going to Carlton and being the reason behind them being found out on the salary cap rorting and ensuing that they remained crap for at least half a generation. Stephen O'Rielly is truly a great man. All eagles supporters should give thanks to his greatness.
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by Mr Q on Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:23 pm
farmer joe wrote:Stephen O'Rielly is truly a great man.
Ha. You don't know my personal history with Stephen O'Reilly.... Let's just say that when I knew him (to be fair, at school), he was a complete and utter arsehole of a bully.
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by farmer joe on Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:19 pm
Mr Q wrote:farmer joe wrote:Stephen O'Rielly is truly a great man.
Ha. You don't know my personal history with Stephen O'Reilly.... Let's just say that when I knew him (to be fair, at school), he was a complete and utter arsehole of a bully.
I have been on and off this forum since 2006. One of the things I respect about you is that you never make statements that you dont truly believe can be backed up by fact. So I do defer to your opinion as I wouldnt know otherwise. Funnily enough the salary cap rorting came out through the family court. For that to happen suggests you may be right.
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by Mr Q on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:42 am
farmer joe wrote:Mr Q wrote:farmer joe wrote:Stephen O'Rielly is truly a great man.
Ha. You don't know my personal history with Stephen O'Reilly.... Let's just say that when I knew him (to be fair, at school), he was a complete and utter arsehole of a bully.
I have been on and off this forum since 2006. One of the things I respect about you is that you never make statements that you dont truly believe can be backed up by fact. So I do defer to your opinion as I wouldnt know otherwise. Funnily enough the salary cap rorting came out through the family court. For that to happen suggests you may be right.
This one was a personal experience - he was a particularly nasty piece of work (to me in particular, but a few others as well). I have heard since that he's a little embarrassed about that - but that was on the grapevine, and I don't know how true it is. I suspect it's been long enough that I'd be able to move on past it if I did run across him - I only remember it now because his name came up. Incidentally, this is why when people want to make role models of sportsmen, I don't want a bit of it. They're just as variable in personality as any other group, and some of them - like, say, more than a few Australian Test cricketers - are complete and utter [Greg Williams]s
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by WCE Booka 89 on Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:01 am
Mr Q wrote:farmer joe wrote:Mr Q wrote: Ha. You don't know my personal history with Stephen O'Reilly....
Let's just say that when I knew him (to be fair, at school), he was a complete and utter arsehole of a bully.
I have been on and off this forum since 2006. One of the things I respect about you is that you never make statements that you dont truly believe can be backed up by fact. So I do defer to your opinion as I wouldnt know otherwise. Funnily enough the salary cap rorting came out through the family court. For that to happen suggests you may be right.
This one was a personal experience - he was a particularly nasty piece of work (to me in particular, but a few others as well). I have heard since that he's a little embarrassed about that - but that was on the grapevine, and I don't know how true it is. I suspect it's been long enough that I'd be able to move on past it if I did run across him - I only remember it now because his name came up. Incidentally, this is why when people want to make role models of sportsmen, I don't want a bit of it. They're just as variable in personality as any other group, and some of them - like, say, more than a few Australian Test cricketers - are complete and utter [Greg Williams]s
I've never understood the obsession with making sports people role models. I can understand wanting to be an athlete like them, but what have they done in their life to make the way they live their life a standard? Don't get me wrong there would be many athletes out there that are fine upstanding citizens and worthy of kids looking up and wanting their off-field life aswell as on field life. But there are just as many who are just boneheads and had they not been selected to play their sport of choice could very well be struggling to make ends meet (and a lot of them once they lose their inflated pay cheques do end up struggling to make ends meet anyways)
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by farmer joe on Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:58 am
Iv have no problems with sports people being role models. But it has to be due to how they live life and not just because they are, or have been, good at sport.
Take DK Lillee for example. He has always been a role model to me. Not because back when I enjoyed cricket he was the best but because he has always lived a strong, principled life and stood for what is right. Yeh he made some mistakes (we all do) but he avoided the fat media gig, has stuck to his core beliefs and he never let my belief in him down.
Kids need, and should be allowed to have, role models. Our job is to ensure we make the right people role models for the right reasons. That must include people with sporting backgrounds.
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by Fat Side on Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:42 pm
High profile sports people are role models. They have no say in the matter. Whether they like it or not kids will look up to them and try to emulate them in the backyard or on the sports field.
I idolised DK Lillee and Doug Walters. I had posters of them on my wall as a kid. Stephen Michael was another. I would practice my bowling technique on that of Lillee, Thommo and Michael Holding. Having said that, I was in awe of their skills and abilities and didn't consider off field behaviour, but then it wasn't reported in the media like it is now.
If AFL footballers have character flaws, it won't stop some kids still looking up to them. If they behave badly, some kids may see that as okay. That's where parenting comes in.
Besides, behaviour not only reflects on the individual, it reflects on their club and the AFL more broadly. Athletes are always going to make mistakes or behave poorly, but they will be scrutinised and penalised for it.
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by sydney eagle on Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:20 pm
Fat Side wrote:High profile sports people are role models. They have no say in the matter. Whether they like it or not kids will look up to them and try to emulate them in the backyard or on the sports field.
I idolised DK Lillee and Doug Walters. I had posters of them on my wall as a kid. Stephen Michael was another. I would practice my bowling technique on that of Lillee, Thommo and Michael Holding. Having said that, I was in awe of their skills and abilities and didn't consider off field behaviour, but then it wasn't reported in the media like it is now.
If AFL footballers have character flaws, it won't stop some kids still looking up to them. If they behave badly, some kids may see that as okay. That's where parenting comes in.
Besides, behaviour not only reflects on the individual, it reflects on their club and the AFL more broadly. Athletes are always going to make mistakes or behave poorly, but they will be scrutinised and penalised for it.
I can understand copying the technique of Lillee or Holding but Thommo ? His "behind the back sling technique" looked as if it was VERY hard on the back.
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by farmer joe on Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:54 pm
sydney eagle wrote:Fat Side wrote:High profile sports people are role models. They have no say in the matter. Whether they like it or not kids will look up to them and try to emulate them in the backyard or on the sports field.
I idolised DK Lillee and Doug Walters. I had posters of them on my wall as a kid. Stephen Michael was another. I would practice my bowling technique on that of Lillee, Thommo and Michael Holding. Having said that, I was in awe of their skills and abilities and didn't consider off field behaviour, but then it wasn't reported in the media like it is now.
If AFL footballers have character flaws, it won't stop some kids still looking up to them. If they behave badly, some kids may see that as okay. That's where parenting comes in.
Besides, behaviour not only reflects on the individual, it reflects on their club and the AFL more broadly. Athletes are always going to make mistakes or behave poorly, but they will be scrutinised and penalised for it.
I can understand copying the technique of Lillee or Holding but Thommo ? His "behind the back sling technique" looked as if it was VERY hard on the back.
I thought that Thompson's sling action was better for the back than Lillee's cricket perfect action as he actually got side on?
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by Fat Side on Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:35 pm
farmer joe wrote:sydney eagle wrote:Fat Side wrote:High profile sports people are role models. They have no say in the matter. Whether they like it or not kids will look up to them and try to emulate them in the backyard or on the sports field.
I idolised DK Lillee and Doug Walters. I had posters of them on my wall as a kid. Stephen Michael was another. I would practice my bowling technique on that of Lillee, Thommo and Michael Holding. Having said that, I was in awe of their skills and abilities and didn't consider off field behaviour, but then it wasn't reported in the media like it is now.
If AFL footballers have character flaws, it won't stop some kids still looking up to them. If they behave badly, some kids may see that as okay. That's where parenting comes in.
Besides, behaviour not only reflects on the individual, it reflects on their club and the AFL more broadly. Athletes are always going to make mistakes or behave poorly, but they will be scrutinised and penalised for it.
I can understand copying the technique of Lillee or Holding but Thommo ? His "behind the back sling technique" looked as if it was VERY hard on the back.
I thought that Thompson's sling action was better for the back than Lillee's cricket perfect action as he actually got side on?
Your body is much more flexible as a ten year old than a 50 year old. I wouldn't dare mimic them now.
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by Streaker on Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:37 am
Players that should be available around our current 1st pick. A Hurn replacement, a Jetta Replacement and a hard nosed bullocking mid http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-08/c ... ide-august POS: Half-back Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia Clark is a running backman who is trusted to set up the play and get things going out of the defensive half. A smart footballer who sees – and makes – the play unfold.  POS: Midfielder Ht 185cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 7/7/00 From Gippsland Power/Vic Country An attacking half-back and midfielder who has performed consistently for the Power across the season and also put in some strong games for Vic Country at the under-18 championships. Can stride down the ground and take the ball with him.  POS: Midfielder Ht 186cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 8/5/00 From Norwood/South Australia Valente doesn't do a lot wrong. His highlight reel may not be quite as thrilling as others', but he has been a consistent and prolific player across the season. The midfielder captained South Australia's triumph at the under-18 carnival, was named its most valuable player and also claimed All Australian honours after averaging 23 disposals at 84 per cent during the carnival.
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by Streaker on Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:49 am
Another 2 players I'd be looking at as Late draft/Early rookie prospects. LeCras replacement and possibly a Kennedy replacement.
Nathan Krueger (South Adelaide) An explosive athlete, Krueger was overlooked in last year's national and rookie draft, but has put that disappointment aside to have an impressive season for South Adelaide. The exciting 19-year-old forward, who stands 196cm, has kicked 15 goals from nine league games. Was electric in a game against Central District, booting 3.1 from 10 disposals (nine contested possessions) and four inside 50s, but it's the three contested marks that would have got scouts interested. He's been invited to the SA Draft Combine and is one to watch. Nathan’s father Jamie Krueger played 150 games with it Darwin Buffaloes in the tough and uncompromising Northern Territory Football League as well as football in WA and Victoria. Kruger’s mother Elaine is from the “Nunga mob” in Western Australia and has always suggested that Nathan was related to the AFL great Hall of Fame legend, Graham “Polly” Farmer.
Shane McAdam (Sturt) The 23-year-old medium-sized forward has rocketed into calculations behind an impressive debut season for the Double Blues. McAdam – the nephew of former St Kilda and Brisbane speedster Gilbert McAdam – is quick, provides tackling pressure, is good overhead and knows where the goals are. He's kicked 23 goals for the season. McAdam joined the Double Blues for pre-season after playing with division three Adelaide Football League club Scotch Old Collegians last year. At the 2015 WA state combine, McAdam equalled Nic Naitanui's running vertical jump record (102cm), was first in the 20m sprint (2.89 seconds) and second in the agility test (8.04 seconds). One of just two mature-age players invited to the national combine. McAdam’s tackling pressure has been another highlight of his game, averaging 2.9 tackles per game to go with 10.5 disposals and 4.4 marks. “He’s a very interesting player because there’s not many like him,” he said. “He’s good in the air, he’s good on the ground, he’s quick, he chases, he pressures, he can take a mark on the lead. “He’s got a bit of everything, so that’s probably why he’s so impressive and so different to everyone else playing in the SANFL.”
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