Shark Cull

[farmer joe]

FIFO wont last forever and we need more than that.

But accountancy, accountancy I tell's ya, is a profession that will outlive the sun.

Joe, I have no doubt you are a very decent fellow, but your propensity to offer up some of the most staggeringly simplistic stupidity makes me think I am back at good old HASHS.

Remember that bloke "down our way" who had his hay shed adorned with a mural proclaiming "no smelter, no cows". Last time I looked the cows are still there and most of his contemporaries' kids are working at the aforesaid smelter, Worsley, or dare I say it, in a FIFO job.

OK we need more. Let's promote manufacturing and tourism by all taking a 30 percent pay cut and devaluing the $A to 65c US. I'm up for it.

Maxy. The compliment is returned.
I'm not anti-mining or FIFO. I do remember the shed and do still see the cows. I'm not, REALLY NOT, arguing for a return to a currency level like that. The fall out would be huge. My business and most others would be under the pump or already folded (trust me. I have a fair exposure to the mining and FIFO world). The comment you highlighted was driven more about my home town. Without FIFO, and with the attitudes of the oldies and the drug use by the young, it would be a scary world. Keeping what is left of the tourism industry alive is important. I, obviously, agree with the those that say more sharks are in the water close to the coast down here. I don't agree with baiting in the form that will occur but it is important that our waters are perceived to be safe. If FIFO does end what do my kids do?
Re simplicity. Can't help myself. Spend so long giving deep and meaningful answers to questions in my work life that someone needs to cop the bs attitude.

[MaxyB]

I understand your'e not anti mining or FIFO nor was my intention to hijack the thread in that direction. I'm no great fan of "mining" per se, unless it is the precursor to some value adding process. My mob at least go as far as turning our dirt into metal and I dream of the day when the metal gets turned into something else and finally an end product before it gets shipped overseas. But that 'aint never gonnna happen until our wages and our dollar and possibly even our standard of living are lower. If you like simplistic, there ya go!

My wider point (possibly a touch obscure) was "let's not get too carried away with the premise that it's the sharks that are the biggest threat to tourism jobs down south or anywhere in WA for that matter and use that as justification for culling." How about we look at the fact you pay top dollar for average facilities papered over with a few halfway decent natural attractions.

My great fear is that even if we did give the WA tourism industry a leg up with a lower dollar and lower wages, they would still stuff it up. WA - why bother?

[farmer joe]

We agree on much. I throw at you Iluka and what has happened down here with plant closures and big redundancies. My understanding is that they had stockpiled >18 months of production. Another big industry removed from our community and the 'naysayers' won't let anything (gas, coal) else replace it.
I wouldn't be throwing money at the tourism industry per say. But...I am pro development particularly in regards to world class facilities on our foreshore. At the moment world class prices are charged for very ordinary facilities and conditions and that does mean we don't need to scare the people off who are already coming (if a level headed bloke like cheese, let alone WCE06, has concerns re sharks you can see the impact it is having). Somehow we need to create jobs down here not restrict them and the leisure industry is a reasonable employer.
Anyway, we have probably hijacked the thread.

[snert]

I understand your'e not anti mining or FIFO nor was my intention to hijack the thread in that direction. I'm no great fan of "mining" per se, unless it is the precursor to some value adding process. My mob at least go as far as turning our dirt into metal and I dream of the day when the metal gets turned into something else and finally an end product before it gets shipped overseas. But that 'aint never gonnna happen until our wages and our dollar and possibly even our standard of living are lower. If you like simplistic, there ya go!

My wider point (possibly a touch obscure) was "let's not get too carried away with the premise that it's the sharks that are the biggest threat to tourism jobs down south or anywhere in WA for that matter and use that as justification for culling." How about we look at the fact you pay top dollar for average facilities papered over with a few halfway decent natural attractions.

My great fear is that even if we did give the WA tourism industry a leg up with a lower dollar and lower wages, they would still stuff it up. WA - why bother?

The biggest impediment to tourism in WA is 'TourismWA'.

[HH]

I support anyone's right to protest peacefully. However I hope these morons who threatened the lives of the fishermen and their families are found and charged to the maximum extent under the law.

[snert]

I support anyone's right to protest peacefully. However I hope these morons who threatened the lives of the fishermen and their families are found and charged to the maximum extent under the law.

Yes, it doesn't serve the best interests of the protest movement on this issue. It is this type of abhorrent behaviour that diminishes public support.

[DALBY]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/0 ... es-himself

What a champion.

[farmer joe]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/01/28/00/39/nz-man-fights-off-shark-stitches-himself

What a champion.

I heard that story this morning on the way to work. Great stuff.

[WCE06]

Interesting the vision of that big shark getting a few caps busted off in its head... great stuff for stirring up the greenies. I was more interested in where it was caught ie Meelup beach. For those who dont know Meelup is a little protected slice of heaven which is absolutely alive with kids and families on school holidays. Sits between Eagle bay and Dunsborough. Can anyone be certain this hasn't saved a life?

http://www.planbooktravel.com.au/attrac ... elup-beach

[MaxyB]

I know where Meelup is - I'll send you a few photos of me as four year old. As for paradise, I suppose beauty always remains in the eye of the beholder.

Can anyone be certain that you don't post the silliest stuff on EFH? A bit like the Australian of the Year Award, these things are always subjective, but I know who I'd be voting for.

Tarentino has a bit to answer for as well. Caps in the ass and such. I prefer "shot to death without reason or care, to justify the insane musings of a bloke so far out of his depth you'd reckon he was diving the Marianas Trench rather than paddling at Cottesloe.

Couldn't you support Freo and annoy Shane?

[snert]

Interesting the vision of that big shark getting a few caps busted off in its head... great stuff for stirring up the greenies. I was more interested in where it was caught ie Meelup beach. For those who dont know Meelup is a little protected slice of heaven which is absolutely alive with kids and families on school holidays. Sits between Eagle bay and Dunsborough. Can anyone be certain this hasn't saved a life?

http://www.planbooktravel.com.au/attrac ... elup-beach

I guess that the stopping of this shark will abate the long list of innocent children taken by sharks at Meelup Beach and the subsequent tearing apart (pun intended) of families of late. Oh thank you Coln

[WCE06]

I know where Meelup is - I'll send you a few photos of me as four year old. As for paradise, I suppose beauty always remains in the eye of the beholder.

Can anyone be certain that you don't post the silliest stuff on EFH? A bit like the Australian of the Year Award, these things are always subjective, but I know who I'd be voting for.

Meelup is paradise. One of the best beaches on the globe. Anyhoo as I've stated a few times I haven't nailed my support to the mast of the drumline proposal. I have however delighted in the idiocy of the "anti-cull" professional environmentalists who have used criminal, abusive and in the case of the "dolphin by-catch" poster - downright lies - means to press their anti shark control agenda. I add your feral responses to the same contemptuous vein. Given the money thrown at these organizations you would have to think its just a "flash point" cause to keep the funding coming... I am also surprised the Mark Mcgowan would attend the "protest" this weekend at Cott and risk skewing their opposition off on a political tangent. Still I feel I'm getting closer into the pro-drumline camp (as I've heard nothing whatsoever to suggest this may have an environmental impact);

Between 1919 and 1961, there were 27 reported fatal shark attacks in Queensland; since nets and lines were introduced 53 years ago, there has been one fatality at a controlled beach. It is 60 years since the only NSW death at a netted beach (bodyboarder Zac Young was killed at unprotected Campbells Beach last year). Before the 1930s, deaths occurred at the rate of one a year - and in both states the number of people in the water has at least doubled since the measures began. The controls are not foolproof, with sharks able to swim beneath or around the nets, yet indisputably while thousands of sharks have been killed, many human lives have been saved.

Looks cut and dry that the method works.

[MaxyB]

I know where Meelup is - I'll send you a few photos of me as four year old. As for paradise, I suppose beauty always remains in the eye of the beholder.

Can anyone be certain that you don't post the silliest stuff on EFH? A bit like the Australian of the Year Award, these things are always subjective, but I know who I'd be voting for.

I add your feral responses to the same contemptuous vein.

I’ll see your contempt and raise you a derision. Nah, just kidding, I’m the first to admit I do have a tendency to play the man. Perhaps I should read what I have typed before hitting post.

My “silliest things” line was in direct response to your “can anyone be certain this hasn’t saved a life” question, which I happened to think was a touch disingenuous and possibly a bit silly.

As for Meelup, as a kid we practically lived there during the school holidays, more often than not to get away from the stingers. I’ve been there many times since. I like it.

[farmer joe]

As for Meelup, as a kid we practically lived there during the school holidays, more often than not to get away from the stingers. I’ve been there many times since. I like it.

How about a stinger cull? Though, as I tell my kids, you do build up an immunity....or that is what my folks told me and I believed for most of my childhood.

Meelup is special and rates with the very best.

[MaxyB]

As for Meelup, as a kid we practically lived there during the school holidays, more often than not to get away from the stingers. I’ve been there many times since. I like it.

How about a stinger cull? Though, as I tell my kids, you do build up an immunity....or that is what my folks told me and I believed for most of my childhood.

Meelup is special and rates with the very best.

Just tell them to rub some sand into the welt and harden up!