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US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby Total Package on Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:37 pm



They are the literally the worst kind of people... and it's been going on for at least 12 months.

This classless thug covering their face with masks spits on a Trump supporter... and then claims they are a Transexual and if they hit him back they would be hitting a woman. :roll:



Or these scumbags assaulting and then abusing a homeless woman that was trying to protect Trump's walk of fame star.
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby gus3232 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:42 am

Violence is never okay.

Is it a wonder people go bat sh*t crazy when you hear this sort of stuff though?

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985 ... ntally-ill

Remarkably, the American Civil Liberties Union actually sided with Republicans in urging the repeal of the rule, writing in a letter to members of Congress that, "We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent. "Political correctness" is OK when it gets you what you want? Staggering how much the NRA has the US by the short and curlys.

I also like this - NPR's Nathan Rott reports that the Senate also passed a resolution to undo the Obama administration's Stream Protection Rule, also largely along party lines, by using the review act. The goal of the rule was to minimize coal mine pollutants in waterways and would have required coal companies to monitor water quality in nearby streams during mining operations. Republicans argued the law was too burdensome and would kill jobs in the coal industry.

So, give mentally ill people greater access to guns and give rich companies less responsibility when monitoring water quality. #america #freedom, #dontdrinkthewater #makepollutiongreatagain

You couldn't make this stuff up. Wow.
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby WCE Booka 89 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:10 pm

gus3232 wrote:Violence is never okay.

Is it a wonder people go bat sh*t crazy when you hear this sort of stuff though?

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985 ... ntally-ill

Remarkably, the American Civil Liberties Union actually sided with Republicans in urging the repeal of the rule, writing in a letter to members of Congress that, "We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent. "Political correctness" is OK when it gets you what you want? Staggering how much the NRA has the US by the short and curlys.

I also like this - NPR's Nathan Rott reports that the Senate also passed a resolution to undo the Obama administration's Stream Protection Rule, also largely along party lines, by using the review act. The goal of the rule was to minimize coal mine pollutants in waterways and would have required coal companies to monitor water quality in nearby streams during mining operations. Republicans argued the law was too burdensome and would kill jobs in the coal industry.

So, give mentally ill people greater access to guns and give rich companies less responsibility when monitoring water quality. #america #freedom, #dontdrinkthewater #makepollutiongreatagain

You couldn't make this stuff up. Wow.


Wow, reading that article, there were set to be 75000 people roughly that it would effect and it was because the were mentally incapable of handling their own finances. If you can't handle your own finances you probably shouldn't be spending your money on a gun anyways...

That said, if they used just that justification (mentally incapable of managing their finances) it would actually eliminate a fair chunk of the population of well, most of the 1st world countries.

Also unsure as to how that water quality stuff would kill jobs? Would it not create jobs by you know, needing to hire and train people qualified to test water quality? Or are they saying that those extra salaries would hit the companies too hard and force them to close?
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby Total Package on Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:20 pm

WCE Booka 89 wrote:
gus3232 wrote:Violence is never okay.

Is it a wonder people go bat sh*t crazy when you hear this sort of stuff though?

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985 ... ntally-ill

Remarkably, the American Civil Liberties Union actually sided with Republicans in urging the repeal of the rule, writing in a letter to members of Congress that, "We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent. "Political correctness" is OK when it gets you what you want? Staggering how much the NRA has the US by the short and curlys.

I also like this - NPR's Nathan Rott reports that the Senate also passed a resolution to undo the Obama administration's Stream Protection Rule, also largely along party lines, by using the review act. The goal of the rule was to minimize coal mine pollutants in waterways and would have required coal companies to monitor water quality in nearby streams during mining operations. Republicans argued the law was too burdensome and would kill jobs in the coal industry.

So, give mentally ill people greater access to guns and give rich companies less responsibility when monitoring water quality. #america #freedom, #dontdrinkthewater #makepollutiongreatagain

You couldn't make this stuff up. Wow.


Wow, reading that article, there were set to be 75000 people roughly that it would effect and it was because the were mentally incapable of handling their own finances. If you can't handle your own finances you probably shouldn't be spending your money on a gun anyways...

That said, if they used just that justification (mentally incapable of managing their finances) it would actually eliminate a fair chunk of the population of well, most of the 1st world countries.

Also unsure as to how that water quality stuff would kill jobs? Would it not create jobs by you know, needing to hire and train people qualified to test water quality? Or are they saying that those extra salaries would hit the companies too hard and force them to close?


It shouldn't come as any surprise that this would happen. Every Politician is pro-guns because it would political suicide to not be in the US especially as a Republican (Even Obama was soft as soft could be. He was fake anti guns).

The whole story which of course this leftist website doesn't go into of course is that it doesn't affect "75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs" as they state. It includes ANYONE who has "voluntarily specified a designated payee, for any reason". That means there are a bunch of people who have accountants handles their affairs... or even having payments going to someone else because you are getting cheques and mail stolen from your letterbox... are considered "Incapable of owning a firearm". When Obama hastily brought this in... he of course left more holes than swiss cheese... something even the ACLU warned against at the time.

Whilst I am feverently anti-gun I do chuckle at the hypocrisy though... The same people that want open borders to allow refugees in from countries that fund terrorists (and have threatened America with sending in Terrorists as refugees)... are suddenly kicking and screaming that people that get their cheques sent to someone else should be put through the FBI ringer when buying a gun :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby Crazy Dazz on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:22 pm

The stinking hypocrisy is what I find hard to swallow. They wear their constitution like a cloak when it protects criminals, irresponsible media, even organised crime, as though the people who drafted it were some of the greatest philosophers in history (rather than just a bunch of greedy industrialists.) Same too with their Supreme Court which now acts as an unelected, rabid left-wing, law-making body.
Yet when the same supreme court upholds a citizens right to own a gun, suddenly that's all wrong.

Anti-gun fanatics trumpet the statistics for gun-related crimes and homicides, completely ignoring the fact that the vast majority of such crimes are committed by criminals holding illegal weapons. They already have the laws to stop those people, and in fact it is mostly their own obsession with criminals' civil liberties that prevent cleaning up the problem.
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby Mr Q on Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:27 am

Crazy Dazz wrote:Same too with their Supreme Court which now acts as an unelected, rabid left-wing, law-making body.


The Supreme Court has been dominated by conservative voices for decades. At the moment, it has a 4-4 split after the death of extremely conservative judge Antonin Scalia

The possible change in that balance is why the Republicans refused to even hold a hearing on Obama's nomination to replace Scalia.

The only thing that has stopped the complete Conservative domination of the US Supreme Court has been occasional leaps to the more liberal side by Justice Kennedy - but he has, for the vast majority of the time voted with the conservative branch (he was a Reagan appointee)
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Re: US ELECTIONS: 8 Nov 2016

Postby MrWoollie on Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:13 pm

Mr Q wrote:
Crazy Dazz wrote:Same too with their Supreme Court which now acts as an unelected, rabid left-wing, law-making body.


The Supreme Court has been dominated by conservative voices for decades. At the moment, it has a 4-4 split after the death of extremely conservative judge Antonin Scalia

The possible change in that balance is why the Republicans refused to even hold a hearing on Obama's nomination to replace Scalia.

The only thing that has stopped the complete Conservative domination of the US Supreme Court has been occasional leaps to the more liberal side by Justice Kennedy - but he has, for the vast majority of the time voted with the conservative branch (he was a Reagan appointee)

Have to agree with Q on this one. Vacancies are filled by someone nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. This is easy if the P and S are of the same persuasion, but can be difficult if the senate is opposition controlled. This means you may have to choose someone that will be acceptable to a hostile senate rather than your first choice.
Of the current eight they were appointed by... Reagan (1), Bush snr (1), Clinton (2), Bush jnr (2) and Obama (2). Hence the nominal 4-4 split. The 3 oldest are 78, 80 and 83. The middle one was the Reagan appointee, the other two Clinton ones. Tenure is for life but one can stand down (retire) voluntarily. For some decades it has become common for those choosing retirement to do so while the presidency is filled by someone of the same type.
The death of Scalia (Reagan appointee) in early 2016 threw a spanner in the conservative works but they managed to stall a replacement for 293 days (more than double the previous longest) in the hope of getting a republican president. This has now happened so the right bias will continue for some time yet (it has been there since 1970). If either of the old Clinton appointees fall over then the conservative balance could become extreme. The ultimate target for the extreme right wing is to get a Supreme Court so heavily stacked they can overturn Roe vs. Wade.
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