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by Total Package on Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:51 pm
The Scaremongers said: * The world was going to end because of Trump. * The stock market was going to crash because of Trump. * Women were going to be sexually assaulted on the streets because of Trump. * Mexicans and Muslims were going to be beaten walking outside because of Trump. * Racism was going to increase because of Trump. The reality is: * The world hasn't ended * The stock market has flourished * There has been no increase in sexual assaults against women * No Mexicans or Muslims are being beaten * There have been literally no riots or claims of racism by blacks since Trump has taken office and the BLM sympathiser Obama has gone (Unless you include those 3-4 instances of racism/nazi graffiti etc.... which were all found to be not only false but blacks were arrested for faking these racist claims and in some cases being caught on camera painting the nazi emblem and "Die blacks" graffiti themselves) * More jobs were created under Trump for blue collar workers in industries that were previously outsourcing jobs to China. All we are left with is a bunch of butt hurt lefties crying over piplines, that wear vagina hats and marching for women's rights... even though none of their rights were taken away..... and a bunch of celebrities from paedophile ridden Hollywood that love to virtue signal but are becoming less and less popular by the day... because they all live in a glass tower in LA or New York far away from reality. The world is absolutely fucking fantastic at the moment. Unless you are in: Germany * France * Sweden * * Denotes countries that have what Hillary Clinton and the lefties wanted... and what Donald Trump stopped. Open Border policies on refugees. Countries that are in the midst of a rape and terrorism crisis at the moment. Yeah that Trump.... he has been nothing but awful. 
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by Fat Side on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:14 am
Total Package wrote: The reality is: * There has been no increase in sexual assaults against women * No Mexicans or Muslims are being beaten
You don't know that? They are broad sweeping statements without any foundation.
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by Fat Side on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:18 am
Mr Q wrote:WCE06 wrote:I like him 
Bluntly: in this role, he's a fucking imbecile. This is the guy who actually asked, why, if the US has nukes, it doesn't use them.
The guy is a lunatic. His foreign policy is to beat his military chest and flex a bit of muscle. He's now going to deal with North Korea apparently. NK isn't the threat to world peace, Trump is.
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by Fat Side on Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:53 am
If you're relying on media reports of increases, then you should have said that. "No media reports of increased sexual assaults...or Mexican, Muslims being beaten." Instead you stated them as fact. Rely on police reports of such things, not the media.
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by jourgo on Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:23 pm
How about you give some kind of evidence that it happening, rather than just saying you don't know it isn't.
"You don't know that it is" is every bit as true.
All we know is there is no evidence of any kind suggesting incidents of the type you mention have increased.
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by Streaker on Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:30 pm
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ction.htmlSince the election of President Donald Trump, news outlets and social media accounts have swelled with reports of swastikas at schools, racist taunts, and other hate-fueled attacks and acts of intimidation. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which has aggregated media reports and gathered submissions from its website, catalogued 1064 such incidents, 13 of which were later debunked as false reports, in the first month after Trump won the presidency. (Twenty-six of those incidents were perpetrated against Trump supporters.) The SPLC has presented that data in aggregate, creating an invaluable record of the scope of post-election hate crimes.
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by Fat Side on Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:48 pm
jourgo wrote:How about you give some kind of evidence that it happening, rather than just saying you don't know it isn't.
"You don't know that it is" is every bit as true.
All we know is there is no evidence of any kind suggesting incidents of the type you mention have increased.
What a stupid question. I am not saying it is true or otherwise. TP is stating that it is true. I am asking him for evidence, knowing full well he doesn't have it.
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by FXD on Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:55 am
Total Package wrote:The Scaremongers said: * The world was going to end because of Trump. * The stock market was going to crash because of Trump. * Women were going to be sexually assaulted on the streets because of Trump. * Mexicans and Muslims were going to be beaten walking outside because of Trump. * Racism was going to increase because of Trump. The reality is: * The world hasn't ended * The stock market has flourished * There has been no increase in sexual assaults against women * No Mexicans or Muslims are being beaten * There have been literally no riots or claims of racism by blacks since Trump has taken office and the BLM sympathiser Obama has gone (Unless you include those 3-4 instances of racism/nazi graffiti etc.... which were all found to be not only false but blacks were arrested for faking these racist claims and in some cases being caught on camera painting the nazi emblem and "Die blacks" graffiti themselves) * More jobs were created under Trump for blue collar workers in industries that were previously outsourcing jobs to China. All we are left with is a bunch of butt hurt lefties crying over piplines, that wear vagina hats and marching for women's rights... even though none of their rights were taken away..... and a bunch of celebrities from paedophile ridden Hollywood that love to virtue signal but are becoming less and less popular by the day... because they all live in a glass tower in LA or New York far away from reality. The world is absolutely fucking fantastic at the moment. Unless you are in: Germany * France * Sweden * * Denotes countries that have what Hillary Clinton and the lefties wanted... and what Donald Trump stopped. Open Border policies on refugees. Countries that are in the midst of a rape and terrorism crisis at the moment. Yeah that Trump.... he has been nothing but awful. 
This is a garbage post.
Let me set the scene here. Grand Final, playing Collingwood, we’re down by five goals. I think you [Greg Williams]s know what happened.
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by FXD on Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:05 pm
jourgo wrote:How about you give some kind of evidence that it happening, rather than just saying you don't know it isn't.
"You don't know that it is" is every bit as true.
All we know is there is no evidence of any kind suggesting incidents of the type you mention have increased.
That's not how burden of proof works, but here you go: Authorities are now investigating a shooting in Kansas that killed one Indian man and wounded another as a hate crime, the FBI said Tuesday.
The shooting last week sparked unease in Kansas and across the globe, after witnesses said that the accused gunman had told the two men to “get out of my country” before opening fire. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... d65a97706c
Let me set the scene here. Grand Final, playing Collingwood, we’re down by five goals. I think you [Greg Williams]s know what happened.
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by jourgo on Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:12 pm
FXD wrote:jourgo wrote:How about you give some kind of evidence that it happening, rather than just saying you don't know it isn't.
"You don't know that it is" is every bit as true.
All we know is there is no evidence of any kind suggesting incidents of the type you mention have increased.
That's not how burden of proof works, but here you go: Authorities are now investigating a shooting in Kansas that killed one Indian man and wounded another as a hate crime, the FBI said Tuesday.
The shooting last week sparked unease in Kansas and across the globe, after witnesses said that the accused gunman had told the two men to “get out of my country” before opening fire. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... d65a97706c
You lecture me on burden of proof then cite one story as evidence that hate crimes are on the increase. Good one. I can be convinced - but you'll need to do better than that.
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by FXD on Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:42 am
I was mainly responding to Total Package's statement: No Mexicans or Muslims are being beaten emphasis mine.But since you've thrown in the qualifier "hate crimes are on the increase" here's a couple from Google. Hate crimes in New York City have risen by 55 per cent since this time last year, police figures show. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 10911.html“There’s very compelling evidence that political rhetoric may well play a role in directing behavior in the aftermath of a terrorist attack,” Brian Levin, the author of the report said in an interview. “I don’t think we can dismiss contentions that rhetoric is one of the significant variables that can contribute to hate crimes.”
The report from the non-partisan center examined the incidence of hate crimes in the aftermath of two reactions to terrorism from political leaders. First, George W. Bush’s speech following the 9/11 attacks declaring: “Islam is peace” and “the face of terror is not the true faith of Islam,” and the second, Trump calling for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S. after the San Bernardino terror attack. The report found a steep rise in hate crimes following Trump’s remarks and a significant drop in hate crimes after Bush’s speech, relative to the number of hate crimes immediately following the initial terror attacks. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... me/500840/
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by Total Package on Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:28 pm
jourgo wrote:FXD wrote:jourgo wrote:How about you give some kind of evidence that it happening, rather than just saying you don't know it isn't.
"You don't know that it is" is every bit as true.
All we know is there is no evidence of any kind suggesting incidents of the type you mention have increased.
That's not how burden of proof works, but here you go: Authorities are now investigating a shooting in Kansas that killed one Indian man and wounded another as a hate crime, the FBI said Tuesday.
The shooting last week sparked unease in Kansas and across the globe, after witnesses said that the accused gunman had told the two men to “get out of my country” before opening fire. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... d65a97706c
You lecture me on burden of proof then cite one story as evidence that hate crimes are on the increase. Good one. I can be convinced - but you'll need to do better than that.
Not to mention under Obama and virtually his open support for the Black Lives Matter hate groups.... we had rioting on the streets along with white people and police officers being shot whilst BLM leaders shouted "Kill pigs". Anecdotally there seems to be far more violent hate crime happening under Obama than under Trump.
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by Total Package on Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:42 pm
Whaddya know. That awkward moment last week when you find an arsonist also put a flyer on a wall from "White America" telling immigrants and refugees "Go back to where you came from"..... and the security footage later shows it was a black man that was the arsonist and put the flyer up and tried to create fake Trump inspired racism. So yeah you will have to excuse me... if I don't take all these so called claims of increased racism and hatred with a gigantic pinch of salt.  
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by FXD on Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:58 pm
Total Package wrote: Not to mention under Obama and virtually his open support for the Black Lives Matter hate groups.... we had rioting on the streets along with white people and police officers being shot whilst BLM leaders shouted "Kill pigs".
This is absolute fucking bullshit. Stop getting your alternative facts from Breitbart and InfoWars. The leaders did no such thing. Excerpts from their official statement: This is a tragedy—both for those who have been impacted by yesterday’s attack and for our democracy. ... Black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. http://www.mediaite.com/online/black-li ... -shooting/
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